19.08.2007

VanceS contributed 176 messages, 6 emotes, 4 private messages during 167 minutes. 2007.08.19 05:17:44 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. BillC: hey Vance BillC: how's life? VanceS: sawasdi BillC: what's going on with you? VanceS: sleepy VanceS: first day back at work BillC: oh, wow, BillC: what time is it there? VanceS: depressing VanceS: 4 pm BillC: our first day hit 2 weeks ago BillC: well, you lived through it anyway VanceS: you've probably adjusted BillC: more or less BillC: tomorrow is going to be tough getting back tho VanceS: where do you teach BillC: an international school BillC: Chiang Mai International School actually VanceS: what subject? BillC: computer technology-- middle/high school VanceS: similar to what I teach BillC: how about you? You seem to be all over VanceS: I teach 'computing' BillC: alright, what level? VanceS: to Arab college beginners VanceS: pre freshman VanceS: just out of hs BillC: oh, how are they for students? VanceS: range from lazy to assiduous VanceS: generally prefer rote learning BillC: great day so far, then? VanceS: I had to work today but it was mainly meetings BillC: guess it must be a little difficult getting earth breaking group discussion going, huh?| VanceS: no need for that, word processing, excel SarathS: hello all BillC: Hey, haven't seen you around before SarathS: hi VanceS: hi sarath SarathS: havnt been on for a long time SarathS: just trying to catch up SarathS: Hi vance VanceS: where are you on from? BillC: sorry, i mis-spelled your name earlier SarathS: From sri lanka, living in West Virginia BillC: you teaching also? SarathS: Sometimes, mostly admin SarathS: used to teach tho BillC: are you back in session yet? SarathS: I am a free lance consultant SarathS: presently doing up a education system in North Korea SarathS: Well I am in UK right now on holiday, lol SarathS: its the other korea BillC: wow, guess you have touched about all of the continents yourself SarathS: not south america yet SarathS -) SarathS: not many on today BillC: yeah, its pretty quiet. Has been for the last few weeks SarathS: I see buthaina on yahhoo tho BillC: guess everyone is trying to make the most of their remaining summer vacation VanceS: ask her to join us SarathS: I tried last week but was late I was told by bjb BillC: Where is bjb? SarathS: idle, tho SarathS: she went out with her daughter SarathS: shopping, lol BillC: oh, haven't seen her for a while either. . . SarathS: where r u based bill? BillC: either of you speak Drupal at all? SarathS: drupal?? BillC: the CMS VanceS: I help maintain a drupal at http://www.webheadsinaction.org VanceS: but I'm sort of stuttering in it BillC: do ya? oh, good BillC: stuttering. . . ? Hate to figure out what i'm doing with it, then. . .  :-0 SarathS: hmmm, I am just looking it up BillC: been trying to figure out glossaries and the matrix ccm. You ever touched either of those? BillC: got 'em both installed and they seem to be working VanceS: t t tttt he wwh wwhhh whhh at? BillC: followed the instructions, but they don't seem to be doing what i intended VanceS: try worldbridges cms academy BillC: oh, sorry. They are different extensions packages BillC: ok, sounds like an idea. BillC: got some webheads running those too? VanceS: converging communities BillC: cool, just visit the worldbridges website? BillC: Vance, how many classes do you teach? VanceS: in my day job? VanceS: 12 -15 hours a week BillC: is that all freshmen? VanceS: what they call foundation year BillC: ah yes VanceS: preparation, pre-freshman BillC: any information literacy in there? VanceS: I teach a multiliteracies course for TESOL VanceS: online, spare time BillC: cool-- that in SL? VanceS: no, no space there yet BillC: by multiliteracies, do you mean multiple discourses, social competencies and the like? VanceS: I'm trying to get the urls but browsers are misbehaving BillC: yeah, browsers sort of do that VanceS: rather strange, two of them swimming BillC: no flying ones. . ? VanceS: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/papers/tesol/ppot/portal2007.htm VanceS: I'm thinking for the next one to use the future of education lectures BillC: this looks great VanceS: and a series of innovate lectures comeing up BillC: innovate as in how to innovate? SarathS: hmm interesting, i am going thro ur site vance VanceS: as in http://www.geocities.com/vance_stevens/online_events.htm#070903 BillC: who is the audience for this? VanceS: and more throghout the month of sept SarathS: yep VanceS: people are expected to sign up here http://www.tesol.org/s_tesol/sec_document.asp?CID=664&DID=2642 VanceS: it's not a free course RitaZ joined the room. VanceS: but it's a free resource I leave up while the course is not in session RitaZ: Hi, folks! BillC: hey Rita VanceS hugs rita RitaZ hugs Vance back ;-)) SarathS: hi rita RitaZ: hi, Sarah and Bill, nice seeing you SarathS -) BillC: good to see you too BillC: Vance is just showing us his hobby RitaZ wonders what the topic is so far RitaZ: ahhhh, great to know!!! RitaZ: what is it, Vance? SarathS: I gtg, I was dropping in trying to catchup VanceS: the old familiar stuff SarathS: c ya later VanceS: cya Sarath SarathS left the room (signed off). BillC: see ya Sarath, nice meeting! RitaZ: familiar, old....hmm VanceS: multiliteracies course BillC: Vance, you are a busy guy RitaZ: ah, great, Vance VanceS: yep BillC: . . .and you still manage to have a great social life in Webheads. Kudos! VanceS: you mean a social network life? VanceS: it's my lifeblood RitaZ: yeah, Bill, he can multitask as no one else can BillC: yeah, you're right on that one. Half of the time while we're chatting, Vance will type something. . . VanceS types on keyboard, catches one ball, tosses it in air, types, catches other ball ... RitaZ: and thats what we know.... :-) BillC: and before I'm done replying he has a whole list of links up for it RitaZ: exactly BillC: do you do torches also? RitaZ: multi brained VanceS: bill on the other hand is juggling drupal BillC: yeah, it's been dropped a few times. . . :-) BillC: but its getting better RitaZ: ah, is he? nice to know, still nicer to meet you here, Bill, congrats! BillC: thanks. You do CMSes too, Rita? RitaZ :-)) RitaZ: not exactly, I have integrated some tch into my classes BillC: good, y'know i don't recall hearing what you teach Rita RitaZ: struggling with managers, teachers and stds. In fact, stds are the easiest to handle :-)) BillC . o O 0 or maybe my post-40 brain isn't quite what it used to be. . . RitaZ: EFL, Bill BillC: wow, we have a lot of EFL types around here, don't we? RitaZ knows what Bill refers to ...;-)) RitaZ: yep ;-) BillC: that's great-- my master's degree is in TESOL, so it's nice to hear some of this talk DorisM joined the room. RitaZ: I live in Argentina, Bill, where English is taught as a foreign lang but still through books, tapes and CDs :-( DorisM: Hello! BillC: Hello Doris RitaZ: hi, Doris DorisM: Good morning to everybody! VanceS: Hi Doris!! ThomasLev joined the room. RitaZ: hi, Tom! VanceS: hey tom DorisM: Finally I got my computer back... BillC: Hi Thomas ThomasLev: hello! VanceS: yayy doris BillC: What was with your computer? DorisM: Had to get a new hard disc... BillC: hope your backup was recent DorisM: I just finished installing java..... ThomasLev: like a heart transplant BillC: Java ate it, huh? DorisM: fortunetely... yes... DorisM: I  could save  some of the data BillC: Java's never done that to me before (so far) RitaZ which reminds us all to do a backup again... DorisM: I'm finally on Vacations... DorisM: so you'll see more of me araond.. BillC: glad you got some of your data DorisM: So, what's new? RitaZ: are you planning to do anything in particular , Doris? any trips? DorisM: Nope... not enough money... BillC .oO0 (wish my vacation were just starting. . . ) ThomasLev: my vacation (1 wk.) is over- back to school tomorrow DorisM: You must be excited... new students... new adventures VanceS: my vac -two months- is over (sob) ThomasLev: lots of new students RitaZ: ah, yeah, you are that side of the world..., my vacations start now in December RitaZ: yes, Vance, I know ThomasLev: not excited though, just exhausted BillC feels choked up because he can relate. . . DorisM: My vacations are going to be just two weeks... then we're back till december ThomasLev: summer was too busy, too full BillC: yup, you said it, summers can be that way. DorisM: Where in the world did you go on Vacations?, Vance NinaTL joined the room. RitaZ hugs Nina DorisM: Hi, Nina! BillC: Vance was chasing baggage around the world. . . ThomasLev: hi Nina! BillC: Hey Nina! VanceS: yep NinaTL: Hi everyone, sorry I am late!  Nice to see you all! RitaZ: has your bag arrived, Vance?? VanceS: california, Texas, France, and Spain ThomasLev: Vance & his baggage went on separate vacations DorisM: Indi what new place did you visit? DorisM: Wow! VanceS: the bag was delivered to my inlaws in Houston a month after it disappeared BillC .oO0(Vance's legs must still be aching from all of that running. . . ) RitaZ: I know, not in AD yet? NinaTL: That is just so irritating DorisM: life is a vacation.... VanceS: no, but at least it's in Houston RitaZ: welll, only at times, Doris :-( VanceS: I have pics, wanna see? NinaTL: At least you probably got to stock up on new underwear and stuff RitaZ: so how will you manage to get it, Vance? BillC: guess i could use a vacation from my vacation :-) VanceS: http://www.vancestevens.com/homepage2007.htm NinaTL: I know what you mean, Bill VanceS: Air France SHOULD deliver it to me NinaTL: They sure should! BillC: . . .you blogged about your baggage..? VanceS: but they're dragging feet DorisM: I wish I could say ... my life is a vacation.... but here most of the time there's not enough money or time to go anywhere... DorisM left the room (signed off). NinaTL: Usually if I have the money I don't have the time, and vice versa VanceS: and I'm not sure I want to trust air france to get it to me VanceS: hi nina NinaTL: We used to say if you take Air France, you take your chance DorisM joined the room. NinaTL: Don't know how true it ever was NinaTL: wb Doris DorisM: OOpps. DorisM: I was kick out when trying to check on vance's link VanceS: we put 3 bags on the plane in Houston VanceS: at the other end, Biarritz, no bags BillC: Vance, you got some beautiful picts!! BillC: nice show NinaTL: Hi Vance! DorisM: can I have the link back, please! VanceS: two bags were delivered to our hotel in san sebastian DorisM: I'll just copy and paste this time... VanceS: and one finally made its way back to houston after a month RitaZ: http://www.vancestevens.com/homepage2007.htm VanceS: thanks rita RitaZ :-) NinaTL: I'm watching the 1st slideshow...nice beach! NinaTL: crowded tho DorisM: I got a pop up blocker around and I can't find it... crazy!! DorisM left the room (signed off). DorisM joined the room. RitaZ: beautiful pix, Vance, wheres that parade? VanceS: that beach was empty most days, rain NinaTL: Are those folks doing tai chi or what? VanceS: on the one sunny day everyone turned out for it VanceS: the parade is a procession of malades in Lourdes DorisM: There we went again.... I'll look at te photos later.. I guess... ThomasLev: I couldn't get the pictures on IE but on Safari it came out ok VanceS: yeah something like tai chi NinaTL: Now I am going to album #2 DorisM: Where was that? Vance NinaTL: nice garlic! VanceS: great with wine VanceS: or cider down there in basque country NinaTL: beautiful scenery! VanceS: the photos of the beach were at San Sebastian VanceS: http://www.vancestevens.com/writing.htm NinaTL: Is the blonde lady Bobbi? DorisM: Spain... Nice... VanceS: yes, problably VanceS: we went from there to St Jean Pied de Port in France NinaTL: So are you back home and teaching now Vance? VanceS: hiked in low pyrenees NinaTL: Why all the red shirts? NinaTL: or Pied de Porc haha VanceS: then moved to higher pyranees in Cauterets and across the border (sunshne at last) in Torla, Spain VanceS: red shirts? NinaTL: in the parade at Lourdes NinaTL: I guess it was some group or  other VanceS: the procession maybe? probably people who help the infirm get around DorisM: They must be Chavistas!!! RitaZ: lol Doris VanceS: why not, good catholics NinaTL: lol DorisM: no they're not, then... VanceS: LOL RitaZ: hmm, Vance, good remark :-) DorisM: They are not very good.... the radical ones... NinaTL: It looks so European NinaTL: I have never visited Spain VanceS: sort of like the religious right in my country? DorisM: My mom is Chavista... so I promise I'll love them all... no matter what... NinaTL: awesome mountains NinaTL: Pyrenees? VanceS: yes, the best part was Ordessa in Spain DorisM: I can't see the photos... please, give me the link once more... NinaTL: duh (just noticed the name of the album) RitaZ: http://www.vancestevens.com/homepage2007.htm NinaTL: Doris, open a second browser window and paste it in there NinaTL: Love the pic of Vance walking a flowery path between mts RitaZ: yeah, Nina, he looks nice! RitaZ: very romantic NinaTL: This is like taking a mini vacation right here at home NinaTL: Interesting rocks NinaTL: aw--cute one of V & B ThomasLev: yeah, two different photo-tours- one in the city parade, the other through the mtns. NinaTL: What're the yellow flowers? DorisM: Thanks, Nina! VanceS: the hills were full of them NinaTL: de nada BillC: got sort of the prospector look in the mountains there NinaTL: flax? NinaTL: My new computer :-) has a wide screen so I can fit more stuff on it--very convenient VanceS: i don't know my flowers unfortunately NinaTL: If it were Greece it might be flax NinaTL: Was that a marmot? VanceS: yep BillC: what is a marmot. . ? NinaTL: omg these are gorgeous NinaTL: The rock formations are so neat BillC: anything like a quagga? NinaTL: Sedimentary I guess VanceS: more like a groundhog NinaTL: What's a quagga? BillC: oh, yeha, that pic VanceS: we saw them last year in Kyrgistan as well BillC: the quaga was on one of the sites we looked at last week NinaTL: How long a walk was this? RitaZ: the one which sleeps all day? we call lazy/ silly people "marmota" :-) VanceS: the last quagga died recently so you don't need to know BillC: it was like a cross between a donkey and a zebra or something like that NinaTL: I was shlepping around DC museums with my Japanese kids last week NinaTL: having fun tho VanceS: the walks were rather long, 12 hours NinaTL: 12????? ThomasLev: thanks, I'll remember that, Rita NinaTL: Did you camp? RitaZ :-)) Tom VanceS: 1000 - 2000 meter elevation changes NinaTL: It's spectacular BillC: yeah, looks like you did a lot of walking VanceS: couldn't camp thanks to air france NinaTL: right I forgot ClaireB joined the room. NinaTL hugs Claire ThomasLev: hi Claire! RitaZ hugs Clarita! VanceS: my backpack and its contents VanceS: Hi Claire ClaireB: hi guys ClaireB: hugs all BillC: hey Claire ThomasLev: the luggage had great camping, but nobody to share it with NinaTL: We are looking at Vance vacation albums NinaTL: *Vance's ClaireB: vance how are you doing? NinaTL: Gorgeous mountains DorisM: You know that this is a great idea to have chat session with students and show them pictures and talk about them....I'm doing that next semester... Thanks RitaZ: Clari, its here  http://www.vancestevens.com/homepage2007.htm NinaTL: ever a webhead! NinaTL: Doris do you teach online or blended DorisM: I'll invite Vance.... and evryone who wants to join VanceS: hi claire, went back to work first time for two months today so I'm a bit dazed DorisM: Both ClaireB: i can imagine NinaTL: When do classes start for you Vance? RitaZ: how many stny  ds did you have today, Vance? DorisM: I have a traditional class that goes a lot to the lab VanceS: yeah, we could show photo albums like this and talk about them with each other's students VanceS: no students yet, after one week NinaTL: Yeah, at UM we start teaching on the 29th BillC: good you've a little decompression time first NinaTL: Now we are testing--international TAs and prospective sts NinaTL: I had a day off Friday due to not having had a day off in 2 weeks NinaTL: but tomorrow I have to go :-( BillC: Nina, is that Mich, Minn or another? VanceS: Hey Nina, nice blog project NinaTL: Maryland, Bill (sorry) NinaTL: Go terps! VanceS: next time we'll get you to tag posts writingmatrix BillC: Oh, sorry. My bad-- I'm from Minnesota, so i see um and assume the U of M (Mn). DorisM: Lovely photos... How is it to visit so many different places? NinaTL: Understandable, Bill! ClaireB: nina, is steve sharp now working in the same place as you? NinaTL: Yes, Claire, he is! ClaireB: then there is the u of michigan NinaTL: How did you know? He is our new CALL coordinator BillC: yeah, what's up with writingmatrix? Saw it on someone's blog a couple of weeks ago. ThomasLev: mizzou ClaireB: cool, nina! steve is one of my favorite people NinaTL: That's good to know! NinaTL: I don't know him much yet NinaTL: He just started in the summer ClaireB: yeah, i know VanceS: if you want to put your studetns in touch with other writingmatrix students NinaTL: I was mostly not there, then when I was doing the Japanese group he was on vacation VanceS: just have your students add writingmatrix to whatever tag they use for each post NinaTL: I am thinking of not having my students blog this semester--taking a break--last semester I couldn't get them to post ClaireB: steve was chair of the call group in tesol a year or so ago -- also, he and i hang out together at calico VanceS: and then ... NinaTL: I thot he is the chair now DorisM: It's a writing project involving blogs and international students, wrting and interacting witudents and teachers ClaireB: maybe, but i thought that it is john madden ClaireB: or maybe john is chair next year; i can't keep up NinaTL: I think it's Steve but I could be mistaken RitaZ: I need to go and cook for friends, folks..., so must leave now :-( VanceS: and then you have them check http://www.technorati.com/posts/tag/writingmatrix BillC: c'ya Rita DorisM: here you can see some of my guys blogs... www.doris3meflcenter.blogspot.com NinaTL: Rita, happy cooking!  Nice to see you here VanceS: and their posts and those of other students should be there VanceS: cya Rita RitaZ: same, Nina, we'll keep in touch :-)) NinaTL: Yes indeed! NinaTL hugs Rita DorisM: Rita my students are visiting yours ClaireB: i checked, and steve was chair last year NinaTL: OK, thanks for correcting me! RitaZ: great, Doris? leaving any mess? DorisM: Yes... ClaireB: not a big deal; steve and john are both excellent guys DorisM: some of them have RitaZ: good! thats good news NinaTL: Vance I am enjoying the show of the walk at San jacinto now NinaTL: very nice! RitaZ: Im striving again to motivate them, lazy again ... DorisM: we are continuing with blogging next semester... that's in two weeks ThomasLev: one of my students dumped our entire blog VanceS: that was a surprisingly nice hike ThomasLev: accidentally NinaTL: I will use a wiki for a class web page again ClaireB: why surprising, vance? DorisM: Wow look at those waterfalls... NinaTL: but maybe no blogs DorisM: refreshing RitaZ: ok, the fish is already marinated..., waiting to be cooked...;-) sorry to leave you... NinaTL: One of our teachers coordinated a 3-week summer program where she had a program wiki and each participant had his/her own page on the wiki. ThomasLev: take care Rita! NinaTL: She created the pages and then let them post their impressions BillC: Been fun chatting everyone, gotta go. Thanks for the virtual vacation in the Pyrenees, Vance! RitaZ: bye all, have a good week ahead NinaTL: I haven't seen it yet DorisM: Bye Rita NinaTL: Same to you Rita! VanceS: I guess because you ride a cable car up (or walk all day) and there are no cars up there, nothing to pollute .. RitaZ: thanks, Nina VanceS: ciao bill RitaZ left the room (signed off). BillC left the room (signed off). DorisM: Bye Bill NinaTL: You can see what she did at tunghaimei.wikispaces.com and click on Students NinaTL: It's a great idea! DorisM: Working with blogss. the students get the chance to epore with multipletools... each different GRoup I have uses blogs in a different way ClaireB: epore? NinaTL: explore? DorisM: sorry DorisM: yes, my compu sometimes goes slow and sometimes fast... crazy VanceS: you can tell us about it in your K-12 presentation :-) DorisM: yes the y experiment with video, audio, gadgets... VanceS: and show us DorisM: mY K-12 presentation? VanceS: you can download cam studio and make a short tour of your students' blogs VanceS: aren't you with us in the k-12 event in October? DorisM: Well, now thAT I have some freE time .. I'm writing my experiences at ou our wiki... writingmatrix project VanceS: I'll check there now DorisM: October.... I thought I missed it...... VanceS: that was another one VanceS: you missed the WiAOC one DorisM: cam studio? VanceS: http://writingmatrix.wikispaces.com/k12online2007 DorisM: Ok... so I still have the chance.... VanceS: it's an asynch presentation VanceS: we'll have to recrd sometinng ThomasLev: tunghaimei keeps blowing out my Safari NinaTL: Sorry NinaTL: Firefox is okay with it ThomasLev: she must be doing something cool with her blog VanceS: so one way to do that is to run CamStudio and show some of your students blogs DorisM: Ok... I'll start working on that ClaireB: my chat is doing something weird - I get no text for a long time and then a big burst with many lines VanceS: I've seen that before claire DorisM: that's happening to me tooo VanceS: it could be TI is about to crash VanceS: but mine appears normal NinaTL: Mine is normal NinaTL: Can I ask a question about gmt? NinaTL: I have scheduled a chat here with my Japanese kids on Sept. 28/29 DorisM: gmt? VanceS: ok DorisM: ahh... ok... time NinaTL: I want it to be 10 pm here (gmt -4...or 5?) and that should be 11 am the following day for them NinaTL: I want to put it on the YG calendar VanceS: for which YG? ThomasLev: I got Tunghai ok on IE ThomasLev: It's a program, not a student! DorisM: that always drives me crazy... time differences.... oh lord NinaTL: So first I need to figure out why in some places (YG) EDT is GMT -5 when I know that during the summer months we are actually gmt - 4. NinaTL: Our chat here starts at 8 am for me during daylight savings and 7 am in the winter ClaireB: so nina, are the japanese students now back in japan? VanceS: use http://www.timeanddate.com /worldclock/fixedform.html DorisM: we are always -4 in Venezuela NinaTL: Yes, Claire, they left on Thursday after a very successful and fun 2 weeks ClaireB: yes, i remember your twit about that NinaTL: Do you change for daylight savings Doris? gmt doesn't change NinaTL: right! VanceS: we are always +4, no DST here DorisM: Nope.... VanceS: but London has DST NinaTL: Anyway if I am gmt - 5 the chat should be 3 am Sept 29, right? DorisM: we are -4 gmt alwyas VanceS: use http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedform.html VanceS . o O ( does the thinking for you ) NinaTL: I will check it in a minute NinaTL: my question is actually about the YG VanceS . o O ( and is always correct ) VanceS: which YG? NinaTL: If I set my own time zone as EDT, or EST or whatever NinaTL: and schedule the chat on the Calendar in GMT... NinaTL: will it appear on my Calendar in EDT or GMT?  Will it appear on the students' YG Calendar as Tokyo time or GMT? NinaTL: Here at TI, each person's calendar reflects his/her own time zone, right? How about in Yahoo Groups? DorisM: where do I get Cam Studio? is it free? Vance NinaTL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group.agu VanceS: we could experiment, shall we use the webheads YG (we are all members?) VanceS: camstudio is free - http://www.camstudio.org/ NinaTL: I set fixed time at 10 pm Sept 28 Wash DC time NinaTL: and it gives me 11 am Sept 29 Tokyo time ClaireB: vance have you had success with camstudio? I was never able to get it to work properly NinaTL: That much I knew NinaTL: I am a member, yes VanceS: I use camtasia personally VanceS: i know someone at work who uses camstudio successfully VanceS: I've got it here, I can try it NinaTL: YG? NinaTL: I am there in Calendar VanceS: but that is your group, correct? NinaTL: Which date are you fixing? How about next Sunday's chat? ClaireB: yeah, i use camtasia and a mac-based product NinaTL: I am in evonline2002_webheads now ClaireB: but my grad students can't pay for camtasia NinaTL: but I never set my time zone here VanceS: oh, ok, set a calendar event and give us its url NinaTL: How do I set the time zone? VanceS: I just used camstudio to record a region of the screen and it's playing it back now VanceS: it was easier than camtasia but didn't give me a wide range f options VanceS: but I didn't record VanceS: voice ClaireB: we spent about an hour playing with it and couldn't get the sound to work -- perhaps something specific to our lab VanceS: the version I saw before didn't do regions VanceS: ok, I'll try with sound ClaireB: we had no trouble getting it to just record the screen ClaireB: i have a mac product that works like a dream ThomasLev: tell NinaTL: (It just tells me my reminders will be sent in GMT +0 BarbaraS1 joined the room. VanceS: I did the sound VanceS: it worked ThomasLev: Hi Barbara ClaireB: good deal NinaTL: Hi Bobbi! We enjoyed your vacation albums ClaireB: hi bobbi! VanceS: bobbi is on TI in vista VanceS: and has no java chat window ClaireB: kewl ClaireB: so can she type? VanceS: IE and vista VanceS: not yet, it's coming slowly NinaTL: I have Vista on my new computer VanceS: now she's got it ClaireB: i have heard that there are "issues" with ie and vista BarbaraS1: hihiH ClaireB: vance, i noticed that you left a couple of twitters, but last week one of you said that twitter is banned there VanceS: vista looks kewl but has issues NinaTL: I am still trying to figure out how to do stuff I had on the old one--like putting buttons for gmail inox and bloglines on the task bar--did I have to install goggle taskbar for that? I can't remember. VanceS: yes twitter is blocked in UAE BarbaraS1: thanks NinaTL: I never use IE if I can help it, prefer firefox VanceS: I have on one of my computers a .. shhhhh VanceS whispers "a VPN" VanceS: it 'tunnels' beneath the censor NinaTL: OK I set up the calendar for Sunday chats here NinaTL: What does it look like on your end?  I never figured out how to reset the time zone though VanceS: ok what is the url for the calendar BarbaraS1: me too...I prefer Firefox NinaTL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evonline2002_webheads/cal///group/evonline2002_webheads/?v=6&t=1188129600&pv=2&i=186 NinaTL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/evonline2002_webheads/cal ClaireB: thanks vance, i'll try to be more discreet NinaTL: That's the main url BarbaraS1: For some reason, this is very slow NinaTL: The first one was for the month VanceS: hehe VanceS: the calendar looks like this —¿Ÿ VanceS: what date did you enter NinaTL: Every Sunday starting next week (26th) VanceS: I see GMT here NinaTL: Do you think it's just not possible to set it for a particular time zone? NinaTL: I was hoping it would be like TI--set it in 1 time zone and it automatically translates into the correct time zone for each user--but maybe YG doesn't have that capability VanceS: does everyone else see it as noon gmt? VanceS: I changed it a little bit NinaTL: How? BarbaraS1 left the room (signed off). VanceS: I'm going to see if I can put a URL in ClaireB: guys, on friday i attended a cool event: http://twitter.com/OnAirBusTour VanceS starts up VPN so he can see ... ClaireB: these guys from adobe are doing a bus tour, stopping off in various cities. sometimes they have a live video stream from the bus ClaireB: they were in pittsburgh on friday, and they did cool software demos VanceS: it doesn't appear you can put html here VanceS: in the YG calendar I mean NinaTL: I don;t know html in any case ClaireB: neither does vance lol NinaTL: Well I have to go... NinaTL: I guess I will just post in gmt ClaireB: have a great day, nina VanceS: did you see this note NinaTL: and post messages specifying what that means in different places VanceS: Note: VanceS: under Edit VanceS: Your reminder(s) will be sent in GMT +00:00 time.  If this is not your time zone, change it before saving this event. VanceS: so I problably set the group time zone to GMT NinaTL: I think they mean change it if everyone using the YG is in the same time zone NinaTL: If I put 10 pm Friday night and the Japanese go to Tapped In at 10 pm Friday night, I won't be there! VanceS: yes and by convention and agreement we all use GMT ClaireB: using gmt is the only solution for our group, i think NinaTL: It's one more thing I have to educate them about NinaTL: Our group, certainly NinaTL: AGU--more problematic ClaireB: right NinaTL: Already they have had to create a google account (for Blogger) and a yahoo account (for the YG) and figure out Tapped In.... and I showed them Bubbleshare VanceS: actually trying to deal with multiple time zones is more problematic NinaTL: It was a steep learning curve! NinaTL: But we had fun NinaTL: You can see our blog (with links to theirs) at http://agu2007.blogspot.com VanceS: everyone learning his/her GMT equivalent is a one-step process NinaTL: Berta and Dennis helped out by reading and commenting on blogs--they were great DorisM: dI'm downloading camstudio from a site called soundforge ... http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131922&package_id=144908&release_id=318532 ClaireB: tom what are you up to this week? VanceS: good, it works well Doris DorisM: but i don't know which one to dowload... do you guys have a ny idea... NinaTL: and Dennis, Teresa, Sasha came to TI for practice chats NinaTL: Webheads really made a difference in this program NinaTL: Anyway have a great week everyone NinaTL: See you next Sunday NinaTL left the room (signed off). ClaireB: have a great week, nina say ClaireB: i should go -- busy week ahead! DorisM: I think I have to download the codec, too... ClaireB: bye guys DorisM: Bye Claire... ClaireB left the room (signed off). VanceS: there in an mp3 you need DorisM: mp3.... DorisM: mp3? DorisM: I'm going to download the one that says ... source zip... right? DorisM: or the window one? ThomasLev: sorry to say, I left the computer for a spell ThomasLev: and missed Claire's question ThomasLev: guess I'll twitter her... ThomasLev: but, now, I have to sign off DorisM: Bye .. Got t o goo too... Nice chat bye tom and Indi DorisM left the room (signed off). ThomasLev left the room (signed off). VanceS left the room (signed off). 2007.08.19 08:04:56 Signoff